It is 5 years since I last started to correlate the names of the men on Glemsford's War Memorial with the real people listed in the Census documents of 1901.
Apart from the inevitable need for a tidy up, the page can now benefit from the availability of the 1911 Census online.
As a further tribute to the men who gave their lives, I offer here my original page updated with my research from the 1911 Census.
I am adding my new findings to the original
work on 1901.
I hope this makes sense.
I shall also add in some new names who were invisible in 1901 but who have reappeared by 1911!
Inevitably, there are some people who remain invisible,
and a few who have disappeared.
As before it is based on
Martin Edwards' immense work on the War Memorial names which has made it possible to peer through the mist and catch a glimpse
of the men who gave everything, and which I gratefully acknowledge.
I recommend that you work through my list with Martin's page open alongside.
It is intended as a matter of pride, and as a compliment, that I should call Glemsford " an ordinary village inhabited by ordinary people".
I feel humble and proud at the same time to have been able to stand, on Remembrance Sunday, by Glemsford's War Memorial,
and to have read the names of the fallen as the Two Minutes ticked by.
I feel honoured to have been allowed to lay a wreath on behalf of the Local History Society,
in memory of those who did not return, from either War.
It is very hard even to imagine the faces and voices and thoughts of those who marched away, and died.
It is a hard task, too, to imagine the voices and faces and grief of those who were left behind.
There will still be some inconsistencies and a few confusions - some names are quite common!
My apologies if my mistakes cause problems: please let me know.
Any omissions are simply a result of information not being available.
Just to emphasise, my notes relate to the Census of 1901, when so many of those who were to go to die were just children in school, but now also they relate to the 1911 Census, when the chilldren were growing and making lives for themselves.
George Bradenham |
was 12 in 1901. He had been born in Camden Town. In 1911, George was still living with his grand-mother Ellen on Tye Green. A new feature of the 1911 Census is that
residents completed the form themselves, and presumably gave the names which they knew and preferred - thus Eleanor became "Ellen" and "Bradenham" became "BRADMAN" (sic). |
Henry Charles Brewster |
could be one of three of similar names living in the village in 1901, on Egremont Street and Bells Lane.
In 1911, Henry Charles Brewster was a 35 year old "Engineers Mechanic" living on Egremont Street, with Kate, his wife of 14 years, a Horse Hair Weaver. |
Walter Brewster |
was 9 in 1901, living on Bells Lane with his mother Sarah and father David. I am reasonably confident that Walter was, in 1911, boarding with the Smith family on
St Stephens Avenue, Walthamstow: he is described as a 19 year old "Stone Pit Labourer". |
George Brown |
There were three boys called George Brown in 1901, living on Skates Hill, Angel Lane and Brook Street. As before, it is difficult to be sure of this man, although my inclination is towards the 20 year old son of Elizabeth Brown, a widow, on Brook Street, where George lived with 3 brothers and two sisters. George worked in Engineering. |
Ernest Brown |
One Ernest Brown lived on Plum Street, another on Angel Lane. The 1911 Census has not clarified very much! One Ernest Brown from Glemsford was living in Leeds, and may have been our man, but he was 37 in 1911. Another possibility is Earnest, the son of Abraham and Elizabeth, who was a 33 year old Factory Hand. |
George Clarke |
My original notes said George was possibly the 5 year old grandson of Emma Pearman, a widow of Bells Lane, where he lived with her son, another grandson, a granddaughter and a boarder. I am less sure of this next piece of deduction than others, and would welcome any thoughts
that may help me! |
William George Clarke |
lived on Egremont Street with his widowed father, Frederick Oscar, and two younger brothers.
Roll of Honour tells us that
this casualty enlisted at Bury St Edmunds. The 1911 Census shows a Private George Clarke (17) in a section labelled "Special Reservists" as part of the 3rd Battalion of the Suffolk
Regiment, in Bury. |
Eaton Cross |
was 4 in 1901. He lived with his widowed mother, sister and two brothers on Brook Street. By 1911, Eaton was a 14 year old "Grocers Errand Boy", still living on Brook Street
with his widowed mother Elizabeth, older sister Agnes (19), both of whom were "Silk Mill Hands", and younger brother Bertram (12). |
William Debenham |
was 19 in 1901, working as bricklayer and living on Tye Green with his mother and father, Alfred and Julia, and his younger sister, Annie. In 1911, William was boarding on Tye Green with the Medcalf family,some of whom were also bricklayers.
Alfred, his father, had died in the middle of 1903. His widowed mother, Julia, is recorded as Cook, in Service in Hampstead. |
Cyril Game |
was 8 in 1901, when his father and mother, Walter and Anna, were running the Crown Hotel on Brook Street. I have not been able to pin him down in the 1911 Census (all help welcomed!) but both parents were still alive and running The Crown. |
Dennis Golding |
lived on Bells Lane in 1901, with his mother, father and 4 sisters and a brother. In 1911, the Golding family were living on York St, Cambridge, whither Dennis's father Alfred had obviously taken his mat making skills. At that time, Dennis was making his living as a Baker. Two brothers were errand boys, and sister Anne was a domestic servant. |
Lambert Goody |
was 12 in 1901, an "assistant fishmonger", living with father, mother, three sisters and a brother at Silk Factory Yard on Brook Street. In 1911, Lambert was boarding on Sizewell Road, Leiston, where he was employed as "Core Maker" in a Brass Foundry.
I suspect, but can't prove, that this was in the famous Garrett works. The story of the sinking of the Vanguard is well-told on the internet: this link is as good as any. One sad footnote tells us that Lambert had a tattoo above his right wrist, with crossed hands and "I love E.N.". The human side of war. |
Albert Hartley |
was 8 in 1901. He lived at 3 New Cut with his mother (Mahala), father (Harry), one brother and 4 sisters. Albert was still at home, on New Cut, in 1911, aged 18, a "Factory Hand". The family comprised: |
Eliazer Hartley |
was already at work in 1901, as a "Hair Tipper", aged 15. In 1901, Eliazer was living on Shilling Street, Lavenham, as a Farm Labourer. He had married Mercy Adelaide Brown in 1907, and had two children, Hilda and Gladys (3 and 1). |
George Honeywood(A revision of my previous research) |
was born in Stanstead, the son of Eliza Honeywood. She was in service in a household on North St in Sudbury, while George was living in Stanstead with an uncle and aunt. Towards the end of 1902, Eliza married George Elliston, a "Horse Keeper on Farm" in Church Gate. His first wife, Ada, had died in
the last quarter of 1901. |
Walter Jarmin |
was probably the son of George and Agnes, of Angel Lane, although there are other possibilities in 1901.
Walter was 10. Unfortunately, the 1911 Census does not allow any definitive identification: |
Lambert Jarmyn |
As so often, there is some confusion over surname spelling, and Lambert appears as "Jarmyn" on the census, but the other factors agree that he was 22 in 1901,
a journeyman baker and the son of Charlotte, a widow, living on Pump Lane (opposite the Cock Inn). In 1911, Lambert was living with his wife Beatrice on Surrey Road, Ipswich; they had been married 8 years and both worked in a "Furnishing House". |
Edwin Keefe |
In 1901 he was the 2 year old son of James and Julia, living on Egremont Street with their younger daughter. The family was still in Glemsford in 1911. Edwin (12) was still at school, and had four sisters and brothers:
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Harry Lorkings |
lived on Hunts Hill. He was 11 in 1901, still at school and living with mother, father, two sisters and two brothers. But in all my research into Glemsford's War Dead, Harry is the first I have found who was actually serving overseas in a military unit in 1911 (although others were enlisted). |
Harry Mizon |
Although he was living in Walthamstow by the time he died, he was, in 1901,
living on New Cut, with his father and mother (Walter and Ruth) and 4 brothers. He was 16 and a "Coker yarn winder". In 1911, there is sufficient cross-reference to identify Harry as Henry Mizon, living on Brettenham Road, Walthamstow, with his wife Eliza and their 4 children. Henry was a Brewer's Labourer. |
Frederick Oakley |
He was 17 in 1901, living on Chequers Lane, with his father and mother (James and Emma)
and 3 brothers and 3 sisters. He was a "fibre yarn puller". By the time of the 1911 Census, Frederick and Alice had been joined by Violet (6 months). They lived on Victoria Road, Newport,
Isle of Wight. Frederick was a Storeman in the "Corn and Flour Trade". He is also labelled as "Reservist". |
Ben Oakley |
Aged 10 in 1901, Ben lived on New Street, with his mother (Emma - a widow), brother (Frank Maxim) and uncle (David Slater). In 1911, Ben and his mother were still at New Street; he was a Farm Labourer. |
Edwin Piper |
There is no information as yet about his death, but in 1901 Edwin lived with his grand-parents,
William and Eliza Stammers, their son, Arthur, and a boarder, on Egremont Street. Edwin was 9 in 1901. Since writing this, I have received the following from Mark Couchman, for which, many thanks: Like you I believe that the E. Piper on the war memorial is Edwin Piper
as you noted from the 1901 census. The CWGC lists: To add further to Mark's contribution, the 1911 Census shows Edwin back in Yorkshire, at Pitsmoor, Sheffield, with something of a reconstructed family. |
Wallace Playle |
Again, there is no military detail yet, but Wallace was an 18 year old school teacher in 1901,
living on Fair Green with father and mother (William and Sarah) and brother Walter (28) and sister Polly (15) UPDATE - November 2008: I have found this detail at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website:
Corporal Wallace Edward George Playle, London Regiment, First Surrey Rifles, died 8 October 1916, and is commemorated on the magnificent memorial at Thiepval. Presumably, therefore,
he has no known grave and was another
of the tens of thousands of victims of the Somme. In 1911, Wallace was lodging at Belvedere in Kent, where he was pursuing his career as a teacher; his parents still lived in the village, on Brook Street. |
Samuel George Smith |
By the time Samuel died, his father Abner and family lived in Leeds, but in 1901, they lived on New Cut. Samuel was 11; there were 2 brothers and 3 sisters (Samuel was the 4th child), and the whole (working) family worked at weaving of one sort or another. And the family was still in Glemsford in 1911. They lived on Egremont Street. Abner was aFarm Labourer by then, but Samuel was a "Factory Hand". He was the oldest of three children at home, aged 21, 18 and 15. |
Ambrose Suttle |
Living on Egremont Street in 1901, Ambrose was the 8 year old son of John and Ellen. In 1911, Ambrose was lodging with Charlotte Suttle, a widow aged 57, and her son (also Ambrose, 27), on Egremont Street. The rest of (our) Ambrose's family were living on Friar's Street in Sudbury, with a strange selection surnames that I shall not rehearse here! |
Albert Twinn |
Possibly, this was Albert Twinn of Egremont Street, son of John Henry and Ellen Twinn. This Albert was 24 in 1901, and had a younger brother and sister. Presuming my 1901 identification was correct, I also suspect that, by 1911, Albert had married Ada, was a matting weaver living on Egremont Street, and that they had two children - Elsie (5) and George (2). |
Arthur CandWallace W Twinn |
Wallace Twinn was a Carpenter and Builder, living (in 1901) on Tye Green with his wife, Alice, 3 sons and 2 daughters. The sons, Robert, Arthur and Wallace were aged 1, 3 and 6, respectively. The 1911 Census has not done a lot to clarify matters, but I am fairly certain that the "Cyril A", aged 13, son of Wallace and Alice, of Tye Green, is the same as the Cyril Arthur Twinn on the Memorial. Roll of Honour suggests that Wallace/Walter was also an (older) son of the same family, but I can't, at present, locate him on the Census. |
Other names |
The rest of this page comprises men whose details have emerged from the 1911 Census but for whom I could find no details in 1901 |
ALBRIGHT, Frederick Arthur |
If Roll of Honour is right, Frederick was 16 in 1911, living with his family in Canning Town, where he was an "Errand Lad". |
BROWN, Arthur |
An entry for the Barossa Barracks in Aldershot shows Arthur Brown, then aged 26, and Glemsford-born. |
BYFORD, John |
A John Byford was living near the Station with his Grandfather, Barnard Byford, a farmer. John was 17. Harriet Byford (referred to in "Roll of Honour") was living in Brook St at the time of the 1911 Census. |
JOSSLYN, William W J |
was 15, living on Yeovil Street, Clapham, with his parents. He had two sisters and a brother. His father originated from Holton St Mary and was a Gas Company Messenger. |
SLATER, William |
was possibly a resident of Hunts Hill, a 19 year old Farm Labourer, but I have question marks concerning his parents' names. |
SPARHAM, William |
The Sparham family was living on Brook Street. None of them was Glemsford-born; Walter, the head of the family was a 51 year old Farm Labourer with his wife, Mary Ann, and 5 children at home. William was 12 in 1911. |
The rest are men whose names, for one reason or another, do not appear on the War Memorial, but who were born or resident in Glemsford. |
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ARBON, Alfred I |
Aged 22, living with his family in Foxearth. A Roadman. |
CLARKE, Arthur |
Possibly a 36 year old Gardener living in East Bergholt. |
COPSEY, Christopher Simon |
An example of another weaving family that had moved away from Glemsford, this branch of the Copseys lived in 21, Crimble Bank, Slaithwaite, Huddersfield, where Christopher was a Woollen Twister, aged 25. Also there were his mother, father, sister and brother. |
CUTMORE, William |
was a Platelayer on the Great Eastern Railway. In 1911 he was single, aged 31, lodging with his brother's family in Dunedin Road, Leyton. |
FILBY, George William |
lived in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. He was a 26 year old Asylum Attendant. He was married to Beatrice and they had two children, Maud and Frank, both under the age of 2. |
GAME, Jasper |
lived in Braintree with his parents (Walter and Mary). Walter was a Silk Weaver. Jasper was a "Driller"; he was 19 and had two Glemsford-born sisters, both Silk Winders. |
GARWOOD, Robert |
was single, 22, and lodging and working on a farm near Kings Lynn. |
HARDY, Charles |
lived in Burwell, with his wife Alethea and two children Alice and John. Charles was 30, a Labourer. |
MIZON, Walter |
was living in Back Church Street, Coundon, near Bishop Auckland. He was a Cartman. His wife Florence was from Needham Market; his older two children - Elizabeth (7) and Margaret (6) - had been born in Glemsford, but Wilfred (1) was born in Coundon. |
OAKDEN, William |
was the 24 year old single son of Arthur and Ellen, living in Ruckholt Road, Leyton. He was a "Canvaser", and had 3 brothers and a sister, all living at home. |
PLUMB, William |
was Boarding with another Plumb family (Stephen and Finetta) at Church Cottages, Liston. He was a 26 year old Labourer. |
REYNOLDS, Fred |
probably appears as the 12 year old son of George and Emma, at Denham, Bury St Edmunds. The Census gives his birth place as Ipswich, however. |
SMITH Victor Albert |
was living at 81 Vansittart Road Forest Gate, and had been married to Kate for 7 years. He was 33, a Railway Stableman. They had three children, all born in Forest Gate. |
TERRY, Archie Louis |
was 14, living at 46 Leghorn Road Harlesden N W where his father, Henry, is recorded as a Horse Hair Curler. Archie was a Grocer's Assistant and had a brother and two sisters. All the children had been born in Glemsford. |
THOMPSON, John |
recorded as lilving at 3 Orpingley Road Hornsey Road London N (as per Roll of Honour) with Eunice and their 4 children and his brother. John was 31 and was an "Automatic Machine Painter" (as was his brother). |
THOMPSON Tom |
At the time of the Census, Tom (34) was a Gardener, living at Cock and Bell Lane, Hall St, Long Melford, with his parents, Charley and Gilley (sic). Charley was a Shoemaker. |
TWINN, Reginald Charles |
was living at School Barn Pentlow Cavendish; he was 13. His father, Charles Jephtha, was a farmer, married to Janet for 14 years. They also had a daughter, Muriel, and another son, James (11 and 8). |
It seems naively silly to say this but, what strikes me most, having compiled this information, is just how many people would have been touched by any one of these deaths, how many parents, wives, children, brothers,
sisters would have been left to mourn. |
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